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Desperate Japanese head to 'suicide forest'


AOKIGAHARA FOREST, Japan (CNN) -- Aokigahara Forest is known for two things in Japan: breathtaking views of Mount Fuji and suicides. Also called the Sea of Trees, this destination for the desperate is a place where the suicidal disappear, often never to be found in the dense forest.

Japan's Aokigahara Forest is known as the "suicide forest" because people often go there to take their own lives.

Japan's Aokigahara Forest is known as the "suicide forest" because people often go there to take their own lives.

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Taro, a 46-year-old man fired from his job at an iron manufacturing company, hoped to fade into the blackness. "My will to live disappeared," said Taro. "I'd lost my identity, so I didn't want to live on this earth. That's why I went there."

Taro, who did not want to be identified fully, was swimming in debt and had been evicted from his company apartment.

He lost financial control, which he believes to be the foundation of any stable life, he said. "You need money to survive. If you have a girlfriend, you need money. If you want to get married, you need it for your life. Money is always necessary for your life." VideoWatch Taro describe why he wanted to die in "suicide forest" »

Taro bought a one-way ticket to the forest, west of Tokyo, Japan. When he got there, he slashed his wrists, though the cut wasn't enough to kill him quickly.

He started to wander, he said. He collapsed after days and lay in the bushes, nearly dead from dehydration, starvation and frostbite. He would lose his toes on his right foot from the frostbite. But he didn't lose his life, because a hiker stumbled upon his nearly dead body and raised the alarm.

Taro's story is just one of hundreds logged at Aokigahara Forest every year, a place known throughout Japan as the "suicide forest." The area is home to the highest number of suicides in the entire country.

Japan's suicide rate, already one of the world's highest, has increased with the recent economic downturn.

There were 2,645 suicides recorded in January 2009, a 15 percent increase from the 2,305 for January 2008, according to the Japanese government.

The Japanese government said suicide rates are a priority and pledged to cut the number of suicides by more than 20 percent by 2016. It plans to improve suicide awareness in schools and workplaces. But officials fear the toll will rise with unemployment and bankruptcies, matching suicide spikes in earlier tough economic times.

"Unemployment is leading to this," said Toyoki Yoshida, a suicide and credit counselor.

"Society and the government need to establish immediate countermeasures to prevent suicides. There should be more places where they can come and seek help."

Yoshida and his fellow volunteer, Norio Sawaguchi, posted signs in Aokigahara Forest urging suicidal visitors to call their organization, a credit counseling service. Both men say Japanese society too often turns a cold shoulder to the unemployed and bankrupt, and breeds a culture where suicide is still seen as an honorable option.

Local authorities, saying they are the last resort to stop people from killing themselves in the forest, have posted security cameras at the entrances of the forest.

The goal, said Imasa Watanabe of the Yamanashi Prefectural Government is to track the people who walk into the forest. Watanabe fears more suicidal visitors will arrive in the coming weeks.

"Especially in March, the end of the fiscal year, more suicidal people will come here because of the bad economy," he said. "It's my dream to stop suicides in this forest, but to be honest, it would be difficult to prevent all the cases here."

One year after his suicide attempt, Taro is volunteering with the credit counseling agency that helped him get back on his feet. He's still living in a shelter and looking for a job. He's ashamed, he said, that he still thinks about suicide.

"I try not to think about it, but I can't say never. For now, the will to live is stronger."


http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/03/19/suicide.forrest.japan/index.html


do you think the government should close down this forest
to reduce the suicides?
or should they take a different action?
your thoughts on this article.



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Alright I THINK Ghost Hunters International did a show on this forest.. From what i salw its pretty creepy, not a place i would want to go it

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people should be able to kill themselves if they feel so compelled to. if they are so unhappy with life that they dont think it is worth living let them end it. they should not keep living and wasting earth's precious resources if they are going to be miserable and send out more negative vibes than this planet already has. although hopefully the person has thought the whole thing through

-- Edited by geriatric1991 on Friday 20th of March 2009 05:54:14 PM

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this is...sad. i think its good that Taro didnt die, i mean everything happens for a reason and maybe he is realizing that. when trying times get hard, try harder. i think its sad that people see money as a huge necessary. i mean i know it is. you cant live without money. but you can be happy with what you have and can earn money. it is possible. i think its a trip that this forest is known as a suicide place..thats creepy. i hope there can be better ways to prevent this because the number of deaths happening by there own will power is sad.

The Japanese government said suicide rates are a priority and pledged to cut the number of suicides by more than 20 percent by 2016. It plans to improve suicide awareness in schools and workplaces. But officials fear the toll will rise with unemployment and bankruptcies, matching suicide spikes in earlier tough economic times.

..lets hope so. and i hate this recession :( money sucks.

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I think that they should not close down the forrest, but maybe have people envolved in the counseling agency set up sites at the entrance of the forrest. And possibly have people patroling the area more carefully.

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This is sad. I think Laurens idea is great.
Maybe you should lead Japan???








you know those half Japanese girls do it to me everytime..........

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It's good that they are trying to make it more difficult for these people to just "disappear" but I don't think closing down the forest will do much. If someone is bent on commiting suicide I'm pretty sure they'll just find another forest. The counselor tries to blame but unemployment is just a factor in this. Losing your job is of course horrible but I think Japan with it's high suicide rate has a culture that leads to this. These people (as in suicide people) are just walking time bombs and losing their job just happened to be the button. The real cause is much more serious.

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Closing down the forest won't help much many some people watching it would help though so sucides wouldn't happen in that particular as often that it does.



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I like Lauren's idea also.  But these people who want to commit suicide just because they are depressed that they might lose their job or are having financial troubles aren't trying.  If they tried to get help (shrink, financial advisor, family, friends) they could feel a lot better about themselves by trying to do something about their problem.  And then they'll having meaning for their life: to get out of the rut they are in.  Plus, suicide is a very selfish thing because everyone related to that person who committed it suffers.  They suffer from losing that person and wondering forever if they could have stopped it from happening.  Just because something isn't going right, doesn't mean suicide is the answer.     

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i think they should leave the forest open it's not the forest killing people it's the people beig depressed they should get therapy or something

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closing the forest won't do much because people who are compelled to kill themselves will find some other way to do it...therapy is best :) depression is a huge issue. Sadly, closing a forest won't stop people from killing themselves if that's what they want to do..


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i think they should leave the forest open. is it sad that people kill them selves? yes, but if they want to die then they are going to find a way to kill themselves. its not the forests fault

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I think that closing the forrest may stop someone! Even if it only stops a few people I think that it is worth it. Killing yourself takes ALOT of courage, even though the people who do it are cowardly. If people dont have a place to go to do it like a forrest where they will never be found, maybe they wont have the courage to do it in their own homes or somewhere where their family could possibly find them.


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Vanessabug wrote:

I think that closing the forrest may stop someone! Even if it only stops a few people I think that it is worth it. Killing yourself takes ALOT of courage, even though the people who do it are cowardly. If people dont have a place to go to do it like a forrest where they will never be found, maybe they wont have the courage to do it in their own homes or somewhere where their family could possibly find them.




 Maybe, but Vanessa, what about those people who feel so sad that they would do ANYTHING to end their lives?  HOw will closing a forest help? People do scary things to end their lives when they want to, and not having a place to go like a forest won't stop them.

People in the US don't have a forest, and suicide is still a huge cause of death. It's pathetic, but it's true.

I think therapy is still better, they need someone to talk to.

what do you think?



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MAybe changing the name of it would help....

-- Edited by jacobcorbin on Wednesday 25th of March 2009 06:01:51 PM

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I definately agree. Therapy is a good solution. But not everyone will seek it out
There are thousands of different situations and mindsets. I think closing the forrest would save some people though. Obviously not all of them. But there is no solution that would fix everyones problems... not closing a forrest or therapy.


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poeple who kill themselves have no courage. it takes courage to live and fight for something you believe in and killing yourself for any reason is nothing but the calling of a cowardly weakminded person

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DaisyVo1212 wrote:

Vanessabug wrote:

I think that closing the forrest may stop someone! Even if it only stops a few people I think that it is worth it. Killing yourself takes ALOT of courage, even though the people who do it are cowardly. If people dont have a place to go to do it like a forrest where they will never be found, maybe they wont have the courage to do it in their own homes or somewhere where their family could possibly find them.




 Maybe, but Vanessa, what about those people who feel so sad that they would do ANYTHING to end their lives?  HOw will closing a forest help? People do scary things to end their lives when they want to, and not having a place to go like a forest won't stop them.

People in the US don't have a forest, and suicide is still a huge cause of death. It's pathetic, but it's true.

I think therapy is still better, they need someone to talk to.

what do you think?



Talking through it is a great way to prevent a suicide, but finding out who is contemplating suicide it is pretty difficult so therapy can't be the one answer. From what I have seen, alot of suicides were caused by a financial or social problem (ex. massive debt, loss of an important person) in someone's life so each case is very personal and diffucult to regulate with laws and such that are designed to deal with general issues that victims face.

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