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Thousands beaten, raped in Irish reform schools



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090520/ap_on_re_eu/eu_ireland_catholic_abuse


A fiercely debated, long-delayed investigation into Ireland's Roman Catholic-run institutions says priests and nuns terrorized thousands of boys and girls in workhouse-style schools for decades and government inspectors failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation.

Nine years in the making, Wednesday's 2,600-page report sides almost completely with the horrific reports of abuse from former students sent to more than 250 church-run, mostly residential institutions. But victims' leaders said it didn't go far enough particularly because none of their abusers were identified by name.

The report concluded that church officials always shielded their orders' pedophiles from arrest to protect their own reputations and, according to documents uncovered in the Vatican, knew that many pedophiles were serial attackers.

The investigators said overwhelming, consistent testimony from still-traumatized men and women, now in their 50s to 80s, had demonstrated beyond a doubt that the entire system treated children more like prison inmates and slaves than people with legal rights and human potential.

More than 30,000 children deemed to be petty thieves, truants or from dysfunctional families a category that often included unmarried mothers were sent to Ireland's austere network of industrial schools, reformatories, orphanages and hostels from the 1930s until the last church-run facilities shut in the 1990s.

The report, unveiled by High Court Justice Sean Ryan, found that molestation and rape were "endemic" in boys' facilities, chiefly run by the Christian Brothers, and supervisors pursued policies that increased the danger. Girls supervised by orders of nuns, chiefly the Sisters of Mercy, suffered much less sexual abuse but frequent assaults and humiliation designed to make them feel worthless.

"Victims will feel a small degree of comfort that they've been vindicated. But the findings do not go far enough," said John Kelly, a former inmate of a Dublin industial school who fled to London and today leads a pressure group called Irish Survivors of Child Abuse.

Kelly said the report should have examined how children like himself were taken away from parents without just cause, and demanded more answers from Irish governments that ceded control over their lives to the church. He said any apologies offered now were "hollow, shallow and have no substance or merit at all. We feel betrayed and cheated today."

The report proposed 21 ways the government could recognize past wrongs, including building a permanent memorial, providing counseling and education to victims and improving Ireland's current child protection services.

The Irish government already has funded a parallel compensation system that has paid 12,000 abuse victims an average of euro65,000 ($90,000). About 2,000 claims remain outstanding.

Victims receive the payouts only if they waive their rights to sue the state and the church. Hundreds have rejected that condition and taken their abusers and those church employers to court.


What do you think the Irish government should do? Is it their responsibility to protect the welfare of their children, or should they turn the other cheek because of "religious purposes?"



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They definitely have a responsiblity of protecting their children. They should not turn the other cheek because of religious purposes, the freedom of religion is not absolute. Beating and raping people are wrong and illegal, it doesn't matter if it's tied to someone's beliefs of not. It's morally wrong.



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this was the article i was going to post

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This is like a law and order episode, this is terrible.

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DaisyVo1212 wrote:

They definitely have a responsiblity of protecting their children. They should not turn the other cheek because of religious purposes, the freedom of religion is not absolute. Beating and raping people are wrong and illegal, it doesn't matter if it's tied to someone's beliefs of not. It's morally wrong.




 Not religious freedom, rather the influence on the Irish culture that Religion has.



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i just checked out this article. pooor children. this is sick and sad. and shouldnt have gone this long unnoticed.

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i think they have a responsibility to act because its interfering with the health and safety of the children. I don't think "religious reasons" are a valid excuse.

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KW00D wrote:

DaisyVo1212 wrote:

They definitely have a responsiblity of protecting their children. They should not turn the other cheek because of religious purposes, the freedom of religion is not absolute. Beating and raping people are wrong and illegal, it doesn't matter if it's tied to someone's beliefs of not. It's morally wrong.




 Not religious freedom, rather the influence on the Irish culture that Religion has.



alright, thanks. Still, not a valid excuse for this kind of stuff...this is sick.


 



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That's bad the church shielded pedophiles to protect their own reputation.  Protect the welfare of their children no matter how catholic The Republic of Ireland is.

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